So Wikipedia hates me....

I have an 'account' with Wikipedia, and Mr Wiki and I have been discussing my contribution to the movie listing of His Girl Friday. Apparently I lost.

MR WIKI -
It appears you're new here. I must point out your contribution appears to violate WP:Original Research and arguably WP:Notability. Please read these policies (and maybe WP:What Wikipedia is not) before reinserting again. If you still disagree, please respond here; I'll watch for it. Thanks. Clarityfiend 20:22, 27 April 2007 (UTC)

ME -
I'm not sure I understand. I think the movie has pedagogical signficance. The idea seems to be original, there is no ethical dimensions noted about the movie. And, being a media studies student, and journalism student at a University feel it is important for others studying journalism and media studies. This is a class study and similar sections have been added by classmates to Capote and All the Presidents Men. I wonder how mine is different.

MR WIKI -
Let me quote from the Wikipedia official position on what it is not:
"Wikipedia is not a place to publish your own thoughts and analyses or to publish new information not heretofore published. Please do not use Wikipedia for any of the following:
1. Primary (original) research such as proposing theories and solutions, original ideas, defining terms, coining new words, etc. If you have done primary research on a topic, publish your results in other venues such as peer-reviewed journals, other printed forms, or respected online sites, and Wikipedia will report about your work once it becomes part of accepted knowledge. Not all information added to Wikipedia has to be from peer-reviewed journals, but please strive to make sure that information is reliable and verifiable. For example, citing book, print, or reliable web resources demonstrates that the material is verifiable and is not merely the editor's opinion."

Another way to look at it is to ask yourself if you would expect to see something like this in a film article in the Encyclopedia Britannica or Encarta.

Ethical dimensions are normally not noted in a movie page because the article is about the movie itself. Something of this sort might (possibly) be better suited to a different article: Journalism ethics and standards. The only way it would be appropriate in a movie article is if that film had a significant effect on ethics - off the top of my head, I can't think of any.

As for why your classmates haven't been similarly afflicted by someone like me, Wikipedia's a big place, and this film is a bit more popular than the others you mentioned. I'm sure somebody will get around to it eventually. Or if you prefer, I could go harass them myself (lol). Clarityfiend 03:32, 29 April 2007 (UTC)



I didn't want to harass my classmates no, I was just confused as to what I did wrong or different! Very interesting....

V.Tech NBC Controversy

I am extremely sensitive to victims families in a tragedy. (I guess it takes one to know one). It's super hard to be on the outside. I remember thinking about the Oklahoma City Bombing tragedy and how, because I was removed, the footage and coverage made me shudder and I was sad for it, but it didn't bother me to know it was on the air. But then once you are on the inside, at least for me, you become super sensitive to anyone mentioning it, even something short in passing, I think, what right do they have? What do they know? And I most definitely don't want to see pictures or videos or anything that would give a visual to my horrible memory.
I'm assuming this is what the victims families felt, and why they canceled their appearance on NBC after NBC decided to air the "mulitmedia manifesto".
The two sides are that, one, showing the footage let the killer re-victimize his targets, on the other hands people are concerned and want to know what caused this, and its a journalistic responsibility to show what drove this.
I personally feel that the footage should not have been aired. I just think it was too much too soon. And as it was brought up in an article, its an unfortuante 15 minutes of fame that perhaps could drive copycat killers to the same thing. It makes me so upset that someone would take the lives of innocent people, if you are going to kill yourself, how selfish is it to take along others, who are just like me and you, with them? Its a serious, heartbreaking issue. I think its unfortunate that the image of the killer saying, you had a hundred billion ways of stopping this.,,, is not one that I needed to be burned into my memory. I think I understood he was not right in the head already...

I just had an interesting discussion at lunch with workmates about this, and one man, sarcastically, acting like a reporter leaned across the table pretending to hold a mic up to another workmates face and said "how did you feel, sitting next to your best friend who was shot three times..."and he went on from there like....how the heck do you think I should feel?
Exactly.

What better way to spend Easter than watching..

Blood Diamond.

another movie about a journalist whose trying to do good?

I don't see anything ethically challenging here.

(excpet her wanting Leo to go off the record in which he responds
"I like to get kissed before I get f...ed"
Thats one way to put it. And her ways of interviewing...dancing with Leo while asking him questions. Interesting technique, though I might have done the same ;)


"You're a reporter, eh? Well piss off"

You know I'm from the OC

So I had the privilidge of interview Adam Brody, who most might know from the television show The OC. I did my homework and read up a bunch about him, and about his new movie In The Land Of Women (the reason I was interviewing)
I found myself thinking about my ethics of interviewing essay when I started writing out my questions!
I know hes in a band and likes good music so my first question was going to be something like...

You have a great taste in music, what bands are you listening to now? Do you get any imput on the soundtract of the movies you work on? Is there any song you are excited about in The Land Of Women?

Then I realized... This is Adam Brody, an attractive 27 year old, actor, and the first words out of my mouth were going to be something..semi flirtatious? Complimenting him to get a good answer. For such a question as meaningless as this, does it necessarily matter?

I also read that he hates it when people tell him they are from the Real OC. I read a past interview where he says that he doesn't mind if theres teenagers going up to him talking to him about the show, but he really hates it when its people his age or older, he said in another interview "its like, you're 30, like I care if you are from the real oc, or how you feel the show is actually different than your OC, I can't think of a more boring conversation"

If I could ask more questions I almost wanted to dive into that, and tell him I was from the real oc and, to me, it matters how its portrayed and my pride of being from there, but I could see how maybe that might be a better discussion for the producers, but hes the one representing it. But I guess he just doesn't really care.

he was, lackluster, meaning that there was no great personality that came through in his interview. He answered the questions and that was that, It seems he couldn't make up his mind on what he wanted to say and I would almost have to piece together his thoughts to make a coherent sentence.

For Example:

What do you like better? Films or television?
"Well I like flims.....I like tele.....Its hard to sa..... I have a better schedule with it."
With....what now? with it meaning.....film? tv?.. Great sound bite.

Anyway. this was my first 'big' interview and I have to say it was definitely nervewracking and once I started hearing his voice I felt better. But all because of that ethics of interviewing essay I find myself questioning my questions and what would be right or wrong to say!

When I was young I always said, "When I grow up I want to be..

Katie Couric

and John and Elizabeth's interview was very interesting! the tough questions that you know the answer is not going to be an easy one. It seems that she handled it very well. it seems that you could see the human in her voice, and while she was asking the tought questions she asked them with heart. It wasn't like it was a Larry King or a Barbara Walters who asks the harder questions, stricktly as a journalist and does so with an expression-less face. I think Katie Couric acted with pose and compassion, and she didnt shy away from the kinds of questions that were too difficult to ask, and she asked the why and the hows. I was impressed by her tone, and her poise, and her questions, and her comments. Now I'll be interested to see any interviews involving the policies and stances of the presidential hopefull!



(and I still do)